What a fugitive does not want to go to jail with a jump.
Yes, I've had several fugitive that literally jumped off buildings.
Hi. My name is roshane Peppers.
I'm a former police captain with the city of Newark.
10 years of my career.
I was detailed to United States Marshal Service so I can down
what they consider the world's most violent fugitives today
will be looking at fugitive chases and movies and TVs and see
just how real they are.
90% of that is just unreal list.
They transported her without a cage in a car that's against
protocol. The cage in the car is a partition that separates
the prisoner from the offices that are driving,
this protects them in the event.
The person does free themselves, they are unable to get to the
police officers in the front and this scene where her being
handcuffed to the front, that's against protocol.
You handcuffed to the back because they transport her with to
the front. She was able to get to their tasers.
If an officer arrived in the rear,
they ride with the firearm away from the prisoner so they would
never sit a prison to the right if their weapon was on the right.
Being transported in the middle of the Convoy.
This cannon can't happen.
If there is some type of intelligence that this person want
is for extremely dangerous to that.
There are going to be others, that will be attempting
to free this person, if you have information like that,
yes, or we will never use Mark,
police cars. We only transport and unmarked cars.
I read this 18 to nothing else in this clip.
Was realistic at all.
I'm here. Where are you?
So although water in this scene is not a fugitive yet.
It's realistic to bait a fugitive, if feasible,
when we actually sent out probably close to a hundred Fusion,
is we had a mailing list, go out about them winning these prizes.
We had them all come to Atlantic City to the convention
center when they checked in, there was a false wall that you
have all the agents behind, then once everything was done,
it was locked.
And then you have SWAT teams come in and they just start to turn
a few by but yes, it happens.
Having a witness there.
I would never have them out of seen.
My main goal is to protect the public.
So if you have a citizen or witness that is helping you,
you never want to expose them, right?
And you wouldn't have to agents there to do a operation
like that because it's high risk.
They also responded to a deserted area which is not going to happen,
unless it was something that was unplanned.
Lacey fingers behind your head.
Walk backwards to me.
Get on your knees.
By having them turn around with their hands in the air and come
towards you. Is there my protocol when he ordered him to turn
around, they call that a felony type of apprehension
because the person may cause some type of threat or high-risk.
However, the preferable way is not to really keep him on his
knees with his hands up because if he drops his hands you can't
see them anymore and I have a situation that he has a firearm
in his head so many of the officers have them in from positions
with their hands out to the side and it Palms facing up.
I give it a 6 for the sea
I hear a car hit a motorcycle,
and the officers are still chasing born.
That's just not real.
It's Paramount that make sure that the person that was hit on
a motorcycle is okay.
And if the person that you push these any medical treatment,
you were ready away in that the perpetrator is still on foot.
Not continue the Chase born at this point.
Yeah, it was realistic.
The offices were in a foot chase.
They don't have access to a boat at that time.
So it appeared that they were waving to see if they can get the
captain's attention. Is that the captain or there's someone
that jumped onto your boat?
However, what should have been done in the interim was that
they would need to call whoever governs their water by some
to stop the boat.
After he got off the boat, that was pretty much no eye contact.
So at that point, they should be in calling out trying to set
up a perimeter.
It happens to us not often but enough that you find fidgets
that are very athletic, very agile that are able to avoid apprehension.
I remember we had a guy he jumped right off the roof and Falls
onto a iron cast fence.
If he literally takes his arm out and he runs I rated this one
in eight.
That scene is very realistic.
It was point of central for them to use some type of aerial
support. Normally, we know, when we need a helicopter
is when we plan things by gathering intelligence knowing
the terrain include a helicopter.
If we needed this.
Right here was something that they were not expecting but what's
not shown in the clip?
Is that this guy?
And he's probably hours ahead of them.
So when the information came in that he was spotted an ambulance,
they needed the helicopter to least gain ground.
There's no right or wrong in that.
However, when you're blocking off a viaduct in your believing,
you're chasing a dangerous.
Fugitive. Now you have locked the citizens in there with the
perpetrator, I may have stationed a vehicle or some officers,
so that each car that's coming out of Viaduct with stop.
And make sure he did not jump into another vehicle,
but they completely shut it off.
I would not have done that.
Have I personally chase people through a sewer.
No. But I have I chased them through very high and dangerous
situations. Yes. So I would have did the same thing.
The deputy and that I would have had my begin to check the vehicles.
That doesn't mean that we would prolong going into the store
but at least while that's being done,
we know that the vehicle is also being checked as well.
That reaction is true.
Many Fusion practice.
Don't really care if they did the crime. Or
not only thing we know is that a warrant has been signed
for your arrest and our job is to bring you to that respect
of jurisdiction.
What the deputy did was actually pulling while he was by himself.
There was no reason to engage him because he could have caused the
situation to get worse in a real-life situation.
Had he turned around with that gun.
Cuz if Matt was Put the gun down,
normally that would have been a probable cause for use of deadly
force. It
what a fugitive does not want to go to jail,
and he's corner where they jump.
Yes, I've had several fugitive that literally jumped off buildings.
He should have got on a radio,
gave his location, and then they could up,
hopefully take him into custody.
But, you know, he jumped, I rate this scene 8 out of 10 me
to blame us, something will go wrong and then you're off.
So they're going back and forth.
That happens. Local government, working with federal government
is very realistic.
So, you have NYPD hear you, had the FBI here.
Yeah, the lead detective, stating what he believes that needs
to be done.
In FBI has a different position, different agencies,
different personalities, different methodologies.
Rhode Island to Manhattan.
Arbitrarily lockdown. The whole island is not realistic.
That imposes on millions and millions of people trying to move
in and out of the city as unjustified for terrorist attack.
It may be justified, however, that would never come from NYPD
officer. That would definitely come from someone in the federal
authorities to make a determination of that sort in ascending,
they haven't even identify who the perpetrators are.
So who and what are their Chase is about finding out who did
it not locking down Manhattan, veterans.
What is that a yes or no catch them before.
This guy gives detective Davis until 5 a.m.
to find the perpetrators of this crime and its already 1 a.m.
Because number one yet about closing down the island,
right? There's going to take them or 24 hours just to close
the island down.
And number to, a deputy mayor does not have the authority
or possess the argument when it comes to law enforcement
to determine how many hours it would take for a detective
to solve a crime when your tracking a fugitive.
Everything is a case-by-case basis.
They could be from one hour to 5 years,
so that's not even ethical to give him a time frame that 21 bridges
in and out of Manhattan.
Shut him down at lupas Subway cutting off.
Bridges is not as simple as the movie portrays.
They don't even have control over those bridges.
However, if you had as an officer, a
reason to believe that you have a perpetrated,
that's on a specific Bridge specific train or any type of Transportation,
yes, you have the authority to seize it so that you can make
the apprehension. However, if you're going to get him,
something big and elaborate like the scene,
you will have to contact those governing authorities
to ask permission to do that.
I gave this a four out of 10 know detective has the authority
to shut down a whole city.
Barry Allen. Secret Service definitely is something that does
take place. Personally, I've received at least 12 calls from
fugitives and this thing Asian call is a FBI agent.
Tracking a fugitive FBI.
They do have a fugitive unit but the Marshal Service specializes in
in my suite at The Arms Room,
3113.
You're not going to Vegas.
You're not in.
Stuyvesant arms is very realistic for the agent to believe
that the fugitive was providing false information on a fugitive
calls. You is not calling you to turn himself in.
He's playing checkers, he's trying to find out what you know,
so he can make his next move.
What I am.
You're going to get caught the mathematical fact with the agent and
tell some is a mathematical fact that you want to get caught
is statistically the truth, 93 to 95%
of fuses are apprehended movie, show the fusion,
is unlikely to be apprehended.
So is definitely much higher than what the movies and TV shows.
Portray you didn't call just to apologize.
He was doing exactly what I would have done.
When you start to attempt to extract information from a fugitive,
you may tip off to him more,
what, you know, and that's saying he says,
you have no one else to call,
right? He said that because he's probably exhausted all of his
relatives. All of his friends, who don't even want this guy next
to them because you would law enforcement to our house,
the biggest myth that you have in reference to tracking,
to catch a fugitive, is that it's not always running around
jumping. A car's things that I need to.
There's a lot of paperwork behind this.
There's a lot of interviews that were involved.
10%
maybe the jumping in the car and run it out.
There person I've seen a 9 out of 10
That pass it move it.
There would have probably made me look at them suspect that
they were two people.
I was looking for because it was just a quick drop overhead,
it was avoidance and that would have concern me because how would they
know me?
It's one of void me a lot of the Future Track has most of
them. Don't know.
Their fugitive personally they just known by picture.
So it is realistic that the infusion crackers would be thrown off
by Captain America's the skies
Negative is a source this scenario there in a more definitely
not the best place to do it.
What I would have done was just maintain a surveillance
and when they left the mall maybe be able to take them down
and feasible. Place give me a floor run.
Negative on to these are trackers, they broke off a,
which is always what you want to do.
You never really want to be by yourself in the event that you
have to engage The Fugitive to spread out in the mall.
That's a way of setting a perimeter.
And yes, when you're in the noisy place like that,
it is realistic for Future Track as to where are pieces.
And then press the printer. They
are. So they can hear the communication is not just a movie
at all.
So when it just started kissing, it may throw that fugitive
tracker off because that's not the behavior that the future
practice going to be looking for mini diffuser.
Trackers are trained to look for things that are pronounced,
things that are normal because those things become invisible
to a Layman.
The environment is going to dictate what you're going to look
for. They just started kissing.
That's a natural thing.
You will see in the mall and a future tracker is not going
to think that's abnormal.
However for me I would have looked and assess because of the
timing of the kiss it wasn't like it was taking place when I walk
onto the escalator and so I take her place.
Now it happened at the exact time as we met.
I rated this one nine out of 10 it does take place where fugitive
will produce themselves in the open so that they can be invisible
to the actual tracker.
Well, the disguises are definitely realistic, the community
dictates Piper disguises you can wear.
I've done many disguises.
The one that stands out to me and it was a murder that took
place in Maplewood, New Jersey.
We receive some intelligence.
We're a couple of apartments that he could be in.
They were experiencing some electrical problems.
So I wouldn't pose as an electrician one thing that we have
to be careful when we disguise ourselves as the skies in our
cells under actual companies.
Here you know he's dressed as a chicken what a company we normally
probably wouldn't want to do that because then you put that
company at risk as well.
Technically that's not how the Marshals are actually going
to enter the weather team at the back door that was stacked
in the team at the front door.
That means they would have a line of officers who have different
types of instruments.
They went out a bunker in front of them.
A bunker is a shield, they would have had ballistic helmets
on they would have had other devices to distract.
If you watch most saying it would have limited all of the fighting
in people jumping all these areas because they would go in and
everything would have been tactically sound and contained.
The no-knock is very controversial.
The no-knock is when we can articulate that us knocking
puts the officer and some type of risk or the evidence will
be destroyed. I would say, just for conversation purposes
and no knock would have been acceptable for that situation.
They hit the door, people came.
They were armed that one guy tried to go into the bedroom
and I'm getting shot because he didn't listen to be off sitting under
the baby.
There was an assault rifle.
The Dilemma is coming in between both sides law enforcement
in the citizens.
The police officers that have to go out here.
Put their lives on the line and also the citizens that already
have lost their life and it's going to really have to fall on
each state or the legislators to put something in place that's
going to satisfy.
Both sides are rated this.
Seeing an eight out of ten.
The surveillance was very realistic.
The Mayhem inside the apartment was definitely relish.
That's what you're going to get when you enter an apartment
4A. Especially in the wrong manner.
With the correction officers that were correct when you're
talking about 67, prisons and running.
And when you look at the offices,
you only had about the equal amount.
So, to disperse actually even the setup,
a printer could have put the office has endangered the best
thing for them to do at this point,
was to at least maintain eye contact,
so that you can radio in to get the additional resources
that you need it.
So in this thing, they maintain eyesight,
they stay behind them.
All
And the office of yells, hold your fire.
I actually commit them for that.
So the officer chose to preserve life in the post to doing
what probably of officers will be quick to do.
So is no wrong or right with that scenario.
For the also depends on the offices,
athletic ability, they shrimp, which it seems like,
you know, it's hard to do when you're carrying a big rifle
as well and trying to board A Train.
Say one able to make the train and the two prisoners.
Got away. My favorite fugitive Chase in a movie or TV show happens
to be the show that I was a part of Carmel hunters and the
episode was called hide and seek misapprehension
was so fast pace that my adrenaline for,
at least a good two hours, just kept going,