WEBVTT 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:07.500 Police did not call the Atlanta shootings a hate crime, 00:00:07.500 --> 00:00:10.900 but for many it's not even a question the shooter targeted 00:00:10.900 --> 00:00:14.500 three Asian own Salon killing eight people with six of them 00:00:14.500 --> 00:00:16.300 Asian women if that's not reason. 00:00:16.300 --> 00:00:18.600 I'm not really sure what the meaning of the word even means 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:21.300 anymore, you know, so I definitely think it's because there's a 00:00:21.300 --> 00:00:28.900 hate crime if there was a really bad day for him and this 00:00:28.900 --> 00:00:29.400 is what he did. 00:00:29.400 --> 00:00:32.900 This isn't the first time this debate has surfaced the shooting 00:00:32.900 --> 00:00:35.800 at the gay nightclub pulse wasn't initially called a hate crime. 00:00:35.800 --> 00:00:39.500 Neither was a 2019 shooting at a kosher deli in New Jersey. 00:00:39.500 --> 00:00:43.000 So why do police hesitate to call something I hate crime and 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:45.100 how much weight does that hold for the communities affected 00:00:45.100 --> 00:00:52.000 we spoke with for activist and experts to find out is this a hate 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:55.100 crime? We are still early in this investigation. 00:00:57.100 --> 00:01:01.300 Offensive to many in our community because when you look at who 00:01:01.300 --> 00:01:06.300 died, it's very difficult to not see a racist gender-based 00:01:06.300 --> 00:01:10.200 moment of violence that resulted in Murder the government 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:14.000 defines a hate crime as one motivated by bias against race color 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:18.100 religion national origin sexual orientation gender gender 00:01:18.100 --> 00:01:21.800 identity or disability, but they can be hard to prove you have 00:01:21.800 --> 00:01:24.500 to get at the intention of the perpetrator. 00:01:24.500 --> 00:01:29.700 Is there a pattern of their conduct that would play into the 00:01:29.700 --> 00:01:35.000 analysis here then state laws can also play a Georgia is one of 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:36.700 the last states to adopt. 00:01:36.700 --> 00:01:40.800 I hate crimes law at the end of June of last year. 00:01:40.800 --> 00:01:44.300 The law allows judges to increase the punishment if it's determined 00:01:44.300 --> 00:01:47.100 to be a hate crime, so if the shooter ends up getting charged 00:01:47.100 --> 00:01:50.600 with it would be a landmark case for the state the man arrested 00:01:50.600 --> 00:01:51.900 in the shooting told police. 00:01:51.900 --> 00:01:53.500 The attacks were related to his sex addiction. 00:01:57.100 --> 00:02:00.000 Usually interview the suspect at the beginning of Investigation 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:03.400 but some experts say a simple answer shouldn't carry this much 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:04.600 weight on the final label. 00:02:04.600 --> 00:02:09.200 I don't believe that we should be asking the perpetrator 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:13.700 if it was a hate crime this person targeted asian-owned 00:02:13.700 --> 00:02:17.800 businesses. The victims are Asian women that should be clear 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:23.200 enough that it is a racially and sexually motivated crime Asian 00:02:23.200 --> 00:02:26.200 American women. We spoke to say the shooters decision to Target 00:02:26.200 --> 00:02:29.300 bisaillon links it to sexist stereotypes Asian American women 00:02:29.300 --> 00:02:32.300 have injured for decades Asian women are supposed 00:02:32.300 --> 00:02:33.500 to be submissive. 00:02:33.500 --> 00:02:38.300 They're supposed to be these sexual exotic beings because 00:02:38.300 --> 00:02:40.100 of what scene in movies 00:02:45.500 --> 00:02:50.900 I've heard every racist euphemism in the book but a lot of it 00:02:50.900 --> 00:02:53.000 has been highly gendered. 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:59.200 There's this stereotype that the genitalia of Asian women looks 00:02:59.200 --> 00:03:02.800 different and that is both a racist and that is both a sexist 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:08.700 stereotype anti-aging hate crimes Rose by 150% in 2020 in America's largest 00:03:08.700 --> 00:03:13.000 cities. I work in the customer service po so I won't 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.100 be with them like one telling them. 00:03:15.100 --> 00:03:16.200 They look at me. 00:03:16.200 --> 00:03:18.600 All you are like Asia and you are Chinese. 00:03:18.600 --> 00:03:24.300 I'm going to blame you for it's frustrating that this had to happen 00:03:24.300 --> 00:03:28.500 for people in the community to be shocked about it. 00:03:28.500 --> 00:03:33.200 It should have never gone this far the anti-asian hateful 00:03:33.200 --> 00:03:37.800 rhetoric was ramping up because of the former president 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:39.000 name. 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:44.700 Tongue flu. Why do you keep calling this the Chinese virus 00:03:44.700 --> 00:03:55.200 crime, even if police never officially charged the suspect 00:03:55.200 --> 00:03:58.300 with it and sometimes public outrage can make an impact on the 00:03:58.300 --> 00:04:01.500 case in the Pulse Nightclub shooting suspect died without 00:04:01.500 --> 00:04:04.800 charges but many experts few the attack at the key example 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:05.400 of a hate crime. 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:08.500 The Atlanta shooting is already seen that way if I'm any good 00:04:08.500 --> 00:04:11.500 Beverly surgery considered a crime stories where people were 00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:14.200 like not he just had a bad day or like it was a sexual 00:04:14.200 --> 00:04:19.200 desire eating establishments with Asian employees to tell you 00:04:19.200 --> 00:04:23.700 what it is what it is called situations out for what they are. 00:04:23.700 --> 00:04:27.300 We are living under a cloud of hate and violence. 00:04:27.300 --> 00:04:29.500 Let's call it what it is. 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:36.300 It doesn't matter what your skin to Holly's stays Only One race 00:04:36.300 --> 00:04:39.100 and that is human, right?