WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.465 align:middle line:90% 00:00:03.465 --> 00:00:05.870 align:middle line:84% ZACK GUZMAN: And I also want to spotlight the fact 00:00:05.870 --> 00:00:07.490 align:middle line:84% that, of course, a lot of this was 00:00:07.490 --> 00:00:08.880 align:middle line:90% focused around stimulus checks. 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:10.940 align:middle line:84% But when we think about the additional stimulus that 00:00:10.940 --> 00:00:12.890 align:middle line:84% did come through in the latest bill, that did 00:00:12.890 --> 00:00:17.060 align:middle line:84% include a backstop in time to prevent millions of Americans 00:00:17.060 --> 00:00:20.437 align:middle line:84% from losing their unemployment benefits there. 00:00:20.437 --> 00:00:21.770 align:middle line:84% Of course, we're going to get the update 00:00:21.770 --> 00:00:23.990 align:middle line:84% in terms of the latest jobless claims numbers. 00:00:23.990 --> 00:00:25.680 align:middle line:84% And for a preview on that, I want 00:00:25.680 --> 00:00:27.380 align:middle line:84% to get to Yahoo Finance's Emily McCormick, who 00:00:27.380 --> 00:00:28.340 align:middle line:90% has the details around that. 00:00:28.340 --> 00:00:30.320 align:middle line:84% And Emily, I mean, there is a silver lining there, 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:32.090 align:middle line:84% when we think about how many people were still 00:00:32.090 --> 00:00:34.550 align:middle line:84% on the pandemic relief assistance 00:00:34.550 --> 00:00:37.610 align:middle line:84% programs here as a backstop, kind of a last case 00:00:37.610 --> 00:00:38.720 align:middle line:90% to tap into. 00:00:38.720 --> 00:00:42.040 align:middle line:84% Luckily, that seems to be uninterrupted. 00:00:42.040 --> 00:00:43.240 align:middle line:84% EMILY MCCORMICK: That's right, Zack. 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:45.680 align:middle line:84% And just to highlight, a Labor Department spokesperson 00:00:45.680 --> 00:00:48.680 align:middle line:84% did tell me in an email today that the department does not 00:00:48.680 --> 00:00:52.280 align:middle line:84% anticipate that there will be a pause ineligible claimants 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.340 align:middle line:84% actually being able to receive their benefits under Pandemic 00:00:55.340 --> 00:00:58.730 align:middle line:84% Unemployment Assistance or the Pandemic Emergency Unemployment 00:00:58.730 --> 00:01:00.030 align:middle line:90% Compensation program. 00:01:00.030 --> 00:01:03.230 align:middle line:84% So that is really important here when we think about the labor 00:01:03.230 --> 00:01:05.180 align:middle line:90% market's ongoing recovery. 00:01:05.180 --> 00:01:07.250 align:middle line:84% There have been some 14 million Americans 00:01:07.250 --> 00:01:09.620 align:middle line:84% claiming benefits between those two programs 00:01:09.620 --> 00:01:11.210 align:middle line:90% as of last week's data. 00:01:11.210 --> 00:01:13.070 align:middle line:84% And that had comprised the majority 00:01:13.070 --> 00:01:15.770 align:middle line:84% of the more than 20 million Americans claiming 00:01:15.770 --> 00:01:17.670 align:middle line:90% benefits across all programs. 00:01:17.670 --> 00:01:20.660 align:middle line:84% But as we look ahead to tomorrow's jobless claims 00:01:20.660 --> 00:01:22.160 align:middle line:84% report, of course, this is going to be 00:01:22.160 --> 00:01:24.290 align:middle line:84% one of the only major economic data 00:01:24.290 --> 00:01:26.780 align:middle line:84% reports that we get during this holiday-shortened week. 00:01:26.780 --> 00:01:30.200 align:middle line:84% And it is expected to still show a pretty strained 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:31.760 align:middle line:90% picture of the labor market. 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.580 align:middle line:84% Economists are looking for initial jobless claims 00:01:34.580 --> 00:01:39.830 align:middle line:84% to have actually risen to 833,000, up from the 803,000 00:01:39.830 --> 00:01:42.690 align:middle line:84% that we saw during the previous week for those new claims. 00:01:42.690 --> 00:01:45.410 align:middle line:84% Now and that would be the third time in four weeks 00:01:45.410 --> 00:01:47.360 align:middle line:84% that we see an increase in new claims. 00:01:47.360 --> 00:01:50.210 align:middle line:84% It would also be, again, another time in December 00:01:50.210 --> 00:01:52.880 align:middle line:84% that we're seeing the new jobless claims come in 00:01:52.880 --> 00:01:56.930 align:middle line:84% above that 800,000 level after actually breaking below that 00:01:56.930 --> 00:01:58.500 align:middle line:90% for some of November. 00:01:58.500 --> 00:02:00.350 align:middle line:84% And then, of course, starting to tick back up as we 00:02:00.350 --> 00:02:03.080 align:middle line:84% had those new COVID-19 cases and new restrictions 00:02:03.080 --> 00:02:04.320 align:middle line:90% come into play. 00:02:04.320 --> 00:02:06.410 align:middle line:84% And then turning to the continuing claims side, which 00:02:06.410 --> 00:02:10.250 align:middle line:84% of course, measures the entire number of people still claiming 00:02:10.250 --> 00:02:12.140 align:middle line:84% state unemployment benefits, that's 00:02:12.140 --> 00:02:16.190 align:middle line:84% actually also expected to increase to nearly 5.4 million. 00:02:16.190 --> 00:02:18.620 align:middle line:84% That would be up from the 5.34 million 00:02:18.620 --> 00:02:20.790 align:middle line:84% that we saw during the previous week. 00:02:20.790 --> 00:02:21.680 align:middle line:90% So again, Zack. 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:23.090 align:middle line:84% Just taking a look at the labor market 00:02:23.090 --> 00:02:26.120 align:middle line:84% here, still seeing a lot of signs of strain. 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:28.700 align:middle line:84% Of course, this data, since it captures last week, 00:02:28.700 --> 00:02:32.600 align:middle line:84% will not include any of the impacts of Congress's new $900 00:02:32.600 --> 00:02:34.400 align:middle line:90% billion stimulus package. 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:36.650 align:middle line:84% Although going forward, given that there will 00:02:36.650 --> 00:02:39.470 align:middle line:84% be those enhanced federal unemployment benefits, as well 00:02:39.470 --> 00:02:42.080 align:middle line:84% as that replenishment of loans under the Paycheck Protection 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:43.940 align:middle line:84% Program, it's possible that we might start 00:02:43.940 --> 00:02:46.100 align:middle line:84% to see these claims come back down in the new year, 00:02:46.100 --> 00:02:49.130 align:middle line:84% as small businesses are able to keep more of their workforce 00:02:49.130 --> 00:02:51.620 align:middle line:90% on payrolls. 00:02:51.620 --> 00:02:53.520 align:middle line:84% AKIKO FUJITA: Emily, that just sets up my question there, 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:55.830 align:middle line:84% because that is still the big question mark, 00:02:55.830 --> 00:02:59.550 align:middle line:84% is how significant the impact from that $900 billion package 00:02:59.550 --> 00:03:00.420 align:middle line:90% is going to be. 00:03:00.420 --> 00:03:02.790 align:middle line:84% We had a small restaurant owner on earlier this week who 00:03:02.790 --> 00:03:07.350 align:middle line:84% said that the next round of PPP will be absolutely critical, 00:03:07.350 --> 00:03:09.330 align:middle line:84% because it comes during the winter months 00:03:09.330 --> 00:03:11.100 align:middle line:84% when they're not able to keep outdoor dining. 00:03:11.100 --> 00:03:12.720 align:middle line:84% Nobody wants to sit outside in the cold, 00:03:12.720 --> 00:03:14.790 align:middle line:84% especially in some of these Colder states. 00:03:14.790 --> 00:03:18.000 align:middle line:84% What are you hearing in terms of the impact this is 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.950 align:middle line:84% likely to have on some of those businesses, 00:03:20.950 --> 00:03:23.370 align:middle line:84% especially the small businesses who need 00:03:23.370 --> 00:03:25.707 align:middle line:90% that access to these loans? 00:03:25.707 --> 00:03:26.940 align:middle line:84% EMILY MCCORMICK: That's right, Akiko. 00:03:26.940 --> 00:03:29.280 align:middle line:84% And what I'm hearing from multiple economists, 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.620 align:middle line:84% is that this more than $300 billion 00:03:31.620 --> 00:03:34.050 align:middle line:84% that's going towards small businesses out 00:03:34.050 --> 00:03:36.630 align:middle line:84% of that $900 billion stimulus package, 00:03:36.630 --> 00:03:38.280 align:middle line:90% is really going to be key. 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:39.910 align:middle line:90% It could not come soon enough. 00:03:39.910 --> 00:03:42.270 align:middle line:84% And even the delay that we saw actually 00:03:42.270 --> 00:03:44.970 align:middle line:84% had driven, of course, up the new jobless claims 00:03:44.970 --> 00:03:47.220 align:middle line:84% that we've seen over the month of December. 00:03:47.220 --> 00:03:49.650 align:middle line:84% We saw the lapse in these programs 00:03:49.650 --> 00:03:51.300 align:middle line:84% or really the dwindling of the programs 00:03:51.300 --> 00:03:54.540 align:middle line:84% push personal income, as well as personal spending 00:03:54.540 --> 00:03:56.140 align:middle line:90% down in the month of November. 00:03:56.140 --> 00:03:57.870 align:middle line:84% So all of these measures are going 00:03:57.870 --> 00:03:59.610 align:middle line:90% to be absolutely critical. 00:03:59.610 --> 00:04:02.430 align:middle line:84% Just taking a look at those enhanced unemployment benefits 00:04:02.430 --> 00:04:04.980 align:middle line:84% and the extension of those pandemic unemployment 00:04:04.980 --> 00:04:07.350 align:middle line:84% assistance and pandemic emergency unemployment 00:04:07.350 --> 00:04:09.750 align:middle line:84% compensation programs, those are, of course, 00:04:09.750 --> 00:04:12.180 align:middle line:84% actually going to expire again in March. 00:04:12.180 --> 00:04:14.070 align:middle line:84% So it's possible that there may even 00:04:14.070 --> 00:04:17.040 align:middle line:84% need to be more done to really help bridge that gap even 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.490 align:middle line:84% further heading into the summer and really the number of months 00:04:20.490 --> 00:04:22.470 align:middle line:84% that it's going to take to get enough Americans 00:04:22.470 --> 00:04:24.600 align:middle line:84% vaccinated so that we can have that long 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:26.080 align:middle line:90% freestanding economic recovery. 00:04:26.080 --> 00:04:28.110 align:middle line:84% So again, this is going to be critical 00:04:28.110 --> 00:04:30.660 align:middle line:84% here for the small business side of the economy. 00:04:30.660 --> 00:04:32.280 align:middle line:84% But we'll see how long this lasts heading 00:04:32.280 --> 00:04:34.060 align:middle line:90% through the winter months. 00:04:34.060 --> 00:04:36.910 align:middle line:84% ZACK GUZMAN: Man, another reason as to why those Georgia Senate 00:04:36.910 --> 00:04:39.970 align:middle line:84% runoff races are so important here, considering control here, 00:04:39.970 --> 00:04:40.810 align:middle line:90% divided government. 00:04:40.810 --> 00:04:43.210 align:middle line:84% We've seen how these stimulus negotiations have played out. 00:04:43.210 --> 00:04:46.000 align:middle line:84% It would be a very different story if President-elect Joe 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.040 align:middle line:84% Biden had both Democratic Congress 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:49.150 align:middle line:90% and Senate there to work with. 00:04:49.150 --> 00:04:52.080 align:middle line:84% But Emily McCormick, appreciate you bringing us that.